Wednesday, July 28, 2010

Why are a lot of conservatives brainwashed into thinking drilling will solve the oil crisis.?

I think it is from watching too much corporate controlled media(mainly FOX) the US peaked its oil production in 1971, hence why we have been dependent since then, we now import about 70% of our oil. We have 4% of the world's population, yet we use 25% of the world's oil. We only have 3% of the world's oil reserves. There simply isn't oil to drill, not to mention the environmental degredation it will cause; yet the fossil fuel industry spends billions of dollars on advertising permeating the mainstream media. Certainly the oil companies would love to drill, hence corporate media it won't help Americans. THe only way out of this mess is to conserve, cut oil consupmtion by 25% over the nest 20 years and spend money on cleaner alternative forms of energy, or enter srious economic disaster.Why are a lot of conservatives brainwashed into thinking drilling will solve the oil crisis.?
Beats me why they think that way.


Its not just oil dependency, its the fact that they think that oil drilled here is somehow 'ours'.


Its not, its owned and distributed by the oil companies, all of whom are owned wholly or in part by foreigners.


Even if there were some wholly owned American company why think they would spend their money to drill oil that would lower the prices for Americans?


There is no reason for any business to spend in order to make less profit.


We need to develop an alternative, possibly synthetic fuel.


We need to subsidize solar energy and storage facilities for heating homes and water.


We need more nuclear power, but put in uninhabited areas and the energy placed on a national grid.


There are many things we can do to ease our uses,


how about solar panels on cars for instance? Never fill up again. We need a serious commitment to change before the worlds tank is dry.Why are a lot of conservatives brainwashed into thinking drilling will solve the oil crisis.?
The US has a lot more petroleum reserves than what you state. More exploration and production in the US will increase supply, and that will lower the price. There is nothing wrong with conservation, but increasing supply is very important. So is nuclear energy. And other energy alternatives should also be considered. You environmentalist wackos and the lawyers who profit from thwarting energy production are the big problem. Please get out of the way so we can solve our energy crisis.
Talk about brainwashing. Yours has been soaked, washed, spun dried, tumbled dried, and hung up out in the sun.





Your claims are merely pseudo-science (and more than a little conspiratorial), so excuse me, but I will continue to think that sitting on our thumbs when there is oil to be accessed to help us attain some level of energy independence is at the very least, stupid... and borderline criminal.
Sorry, but you are misrepresenting our position, as well as the statistics on our reserves. We believe that drilling is PART of the solution. We must drill for our own resources to both reduce the need for foreign oil and to give us time to find true renewable energy sources.
Kneejerk reaction from the reactionary crowd. Group think and herd mentality is on display. Don't try to understand. Lemmings jump off cliffs, so if you could get the cons to emulate them, we'd at least have a little entertainment. As I believe in equal opportunity, then get the libs to follow suit.
If you need coal, you go down and get it.





If you need gold, you go down and get it.





etc., etc.





We MUST have oil. We shoulda gone down to get it years ago in our own territory.





We MUST go NOW. We do not have time for anything else.
Any child could tell you that if there are no more Popsicles in the freezer you got to go to the store and replace them if ya want more...it's common sense. we don't have a viable alternative yet.
Because it will help in the near future not in the Obama time frame of 22 years or more to wean 70% off oil and gas.........
Same reason hippies are brainwashed into thinking conservatives and their SUVs are causing global warming.
it will not solve the problem but will make an improvement over time.....you have no solid contradictions to say otherwise!
It will indeed help, but only temporarily. It could give us enough time to come up with new ideas and test new ways.
a fact of life is, more supply = cheaper prices.
';...we practice independent, educated thought.';





LMAO. OMG..did you hear that on Fox or did Rush tell you to say that.
NUMBER 1 we are not running out of oil and we need to supply our own until the alternatives are practical that is unless you will give up your car, furnace, a/c , electricity, lawn mower, water supply does any of this register. Climate change is real and always has been a factor but man-made ????? explain then how mush damage does one eruption of a volcano have on the climate and then how many eruptions are there everyday. Over simplification equals being uninformed. Just so we know you do not watch FOX they are global warming supporters and to date have not had a qualified non-supporter of Global Warming which encompasses 50% of the sientific community
I think you have been watching too many Al Gore (The Sky Is Falling) movies. First of all your facts are not correct. This is not too hard to believe. Liberals have closed minds when it comes to common sense. The USA has more untapped oil, and oil shale available than all the Opec nations combined. President Clinton vetoed oil drilling during his administration, which would have allowed us to be using that oil now if passed. Find a nice school and get a good education. Discover a new source of energy, and make your parents proud.
Your facts are wrong. We have billions of barrels of oil...offshore, in anwr, and in oil shale. We have more than Saudi Arabia.





Exxon Mobil is the largest U.S. oil and gas company, but we account for only 2 percent of global energy production, only 3 percent of global oil production, only 6 percent of global refining capacity, and only 1 percent of global petroleum reserves. With respect to petroleum reserves, we rank 14th. Government-owned national oil companies dominate the top spots.





We use 21%, but we're only producing 3% because of the bans on drilling.





We're spending four times more on foreign oil than on the war.





The oil companies net profit margin is about 8%.





Drilling isn't in opposition of alternative fuels. Drilling is necessary because that's what our transportation system runs on now.
So, it is your contention that more oil (supply) will not cause a decrease in the price of oil?





The factoid that we reached peak production in 1971 leaves out the significance of economics - the state of technology and the economic feasibility of producing oil at the time did not support additional US development - OPEC oil was cheaper.





But at $140 / bbl, it is much more economically feasible to do more; we just need to get the government out of the way.





Your ';reasoning'; (loosely using the word) that because the oil companies want to do it means it just can't be good for America is specious at best. Yes, they want to do it because it's better for their bottom lines, but it will also be better for ours as well. For one thing, every additional barrel we purchase from domestic drilling is $140 less we send to countries that are not our friends.





And yes, we understand that it is only a short term solution. But there is no technology that will result in a 25% reduction in the next 20 years. That's a very unrealistic goal. The only way to accomplish it would be to give government dictatorial powers; that's not a very appetizing solution.





And what do you propose? Electric vehicles? Where's that electricity to come from? The same people against drilling are also against nuclear plants and coal plants that we need. We're already looking at future problems supplying all the anticipated electrical needs of this country because of people blocking and preventing plants.





And, no, there are no alternative energy generating technologies that can even hope to meet our needs.





Simply saying that increasing oil production isn't a solution and that we have to decrease our consumption, without offering any reasonable method of doing so, is not going to help.
We have heard that BS since the gas crisis in the late 70's and early 80's when Jimma Carter was the president. If we had put that crap behind us and not listened to you libs we would have been drilling for our own oil instead of the mid east oil. We have to do a lot of things, of which oil is part of it. We are sitting with our head in our a**es while the rest of the world is taking the oil and have no interest in doing anything else. Natural gas reserves in this country are the highest in the world. We can convert vehicles to run on that, as another option. But, you libs will whine about any solution,. We are a major food supplier to the world. Maybe we should increase our food exports by 500% as long as the gas price is so high.
Any increase in supply will lower the price.





Law of supply and demand.


That is not a conservative idea but a law we all have to live in.





So why do liberals think taxing oil companies is going to lower the prices at the gas pumps?





As far as the envorimental problems drilling has change and now oil platforms are becoming heavans for fish.





Much like oil pipeline has increase the wildlife population in AK.





You should read more and join the 21st century.





1 more bit the majority of Americans are in favor of drilling and haven't we been told by liberals that we should go with the majority of what America wants or has the rules change since you are in the minority?
China is now drilling off the coast of Cuba,several other countries have found massive off shore reserves and are drilling for them. We are in fact one of the few industrialized nations that aren't promoting increased drilling as at least a part of the solution. This does not even include massive reserves available in Oil Sands and Oil Shale,which could come very close to matching or exceeding Oil Reserves present elsewhere in the US. In other words you are,as Jimmy Carter did in the 70's,massively understating the potential quantities of oil available. Which if it were sought out and brought into production would massively increase supply,which could at least stabilize prices to a more reasonable level for decades to come. But instead we're being asked to completely abandon that instead focusing on unrealistic alternatives that do not meet the demand,have massive downsides,and are completely unaffordable at this time for the average person worldwide. So we just decimate our economy? Is that the overall plan? Not sure I like that idea,clearly you do.





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The answers are to eliminate restrictions on drilling and refining (particularly the capacity to refine heavier grades of crude, the prices of which haven't increased as much as light sweet crude, and which while imported are imported mostly from non-middle-eastern countries) and to strengthen the dollar (which Bernanke could do by raising the federal funds rate to 4.00%, which is where it should be).





I agree with you that we overconsume - I can't believe these giant Chevy Tahoes on the road - but if everyone drove a Corolla like I do, it would barely dent prices, and I'm not in favor of the government dictating to people what they are and aren't allowed to drive. If it meets the safety standards, doesn't damage the road and fits under the bridges, you should be allowed to drive it.
wow, thats ironic...a kool aid drinker calling a conservative brainwashed. LOL. Thats funny.


The difference bewteen conservatives and libs, is we think. We don't follow talking points from far left sites (like you came up with this post), we practice independent, educated thought.





As far as using 25% of the worlds oil...have you LOOKED at most of the rest of the world? You want to live like that? Funny, as you sit in front of your computer (using electric, made of plastic..from oil), probably with the AC on, while your IPOD charges and CNN plays on your big screen TV...LOL.


Bottom line, unless you want to live like the Amish, you need oil to support your lifestyle. And cars are the LEAST of the problem. A very small portion, actually. Everything you touch all day is made of oil or oil is used in its production. EVERYTHING. Since we are the worlds number one indutrial nation, it would follow that we use a higher % of the oil...DUH.





Also, its not the amount of oil, its the point. Once the speculators and OPEC think we are going to have another source, prices will drop. It has happened in the past. OPEC plays chicken. When they realize we are about to make changes, they cut prices.





As for the oil companies...actually the opposite is true. They really have no desire to drill here.








Now...you want some simple facts?


No new US refineries in the US in 40years...production levels same as 40 years ago while usage much higher. Thanks to Dems.





No new nuclear power plants, to save huge amounts of oil and gas needed to make electric...Thanks to Dems and enviornmental hippies.





No coal plants, although coal plants are very clean now and decrease need for oil...thank you dems...again





No wind technology for power....Thank you dems and in particualr Ted Kennedy who voted it down because it would spoil his view from his working class compound on the cape.





Bottom line, the dems have blocked every effort to either decrease our dependence on foriegn oil or to utilize other sources of power. Even France is heavily nuclear power.





Oil drilling causes and has caused no enviornmental degredation. Their are platforms in the gulf right now and have been for decades with no problem. How could their be with all the Liberal hippie rules placed on them?








The simple fact is Liberals have no clue what they want. They don't want drilling, they dont want nuclear, they fight every plan to do anything. Their little ';ethanol'; disaster has shown to be fruitless. It actually takes more oil and gas to make ethanol than to just burn it in a car! It also reduces the grain supply rasing the prices of many other items.


In adition...the farmers are dumping HUGE amounts of fertilizer on their crops to increase growth, which is flowing into rivers. The Gulf has experienced huge toxic algae blooms which have killed fish and plant life...talk about ';enviornmental degradation'; LOL....





So, why are you so brainwashed?


As usual, conservatives want to talk solutions (like drilling, nuclear power etc) and all Libs want to do is block and complain, yet do nothing (hence the 9% congressional rating)
Supply and demand confuses them.

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